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- From: prozac@cape.com (gregg jennings)
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- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
- Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:31:44 GMT
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- In article <4ieue9$ldb@news4.digex.net>, ell@access4.digex.net┌ says...
- >
- >While agree with Meyer on this point, it's important to note that not all
- >C programmers are bad hackers. Due to the low level aspects of C it is
- >going to attract those who place project implementation above its logical
- >side, those whom worship the computer, etc. But it also attracts
- >programmers who practice good and even greaat analysis, design and
- >implementation.
- >
-
- This term, "Hackers", has been changing over the years, mostly,
- I think, due to people writing about "Hackers" in newspapers
- when they really mean "Crackers". But someone who equates
- hackers with poor C programming is just plain ignorant about
- the history of technology.
-
- The "Hacker ethic" is as old as technology itself although the
- word is a modern one. The hacker in computer terms derived,
- I think, from the early days a MIT. Read the book "Hackers"
- by Steven Levy, 1984. Later references to hackers and hacking
- have changed the meaning. Bruce Sterling says in his book
- "The Hacker Crackdown" (1992); "This book ... has little to
- say about `hacking' in it's finer, original sense."
-
- Another change in the meaning is due to "self-called hackers"
- (real hackers don't call themselves that) roaming BBS's and
- computer internetworks declaring that all computers and infor-
- mation should be free and open.
-
- From there, to force this free and open ethic, came the crackers.
-
- That someone thinks of hackers as hacks is just shows a that
- they have a complete lack of knowledge of technological history.
-
- Here are some great "hackers" of history:
-
- Leonardo da Vinci
- Benjamin Franklin
- Thomas Edison
- Nikola Tesla
- Alan Turing
-
- There are thousands more.
-
- Here's an example (based on the book "Appointment on the Moon"
- by Richard S. Lewis):
-
- In the early 1950's, the U.S. embarked on a project to launch a
- satellite. There were two projects. The Army "Project Orbiter"
- headed up by Wernher Von Braun and many German emigres. And the
- Navy "Vangaurd Project".
-
- The Army rocket, the Jupiter C, was done mostly "in house"; the
- desgin and manufacturing was done mostly by the scientists
- themselves. It was a four-stage design; the second and third
- stages where spin stabilized, they actually rotated before and
- during flight. It would have a 10 pound satellite.
-
- The Naval rocket was done by large corporations such as Martin Co.
- and General Electric. It was a three-stage design with a 20
- pound payload.
-
- Due to an Ad Hoc Committee's recomendation, based on "technical
- reccommendations of the Advisory Group", the Vangaurd project
- was chosen to be first. The Jupiter C was considered to be a
- "messy design", although "it was quick enough and efficient
- enough to do the job". The Vangaurd appeared to be "less
- inherently complex."
-
- The first 3 tests of the Jupiter C, all before the Sputnik,
- where not allowed to actually carry a payload (they were launched
- before the Vangaurd) but proved successful -- the third flight
- could have put up a satellite if they where allowed to.
-
- The Vangaurd had not had any real tests before Sputnik. After
- Sputnik, the two Vangaurds both blew up -- to the ridicule of
- the world.
-
- The Jupiter C was then given the go ahead. When the German
- scientists saw the concrete platforms at Cape Canaveral, they
- shook their heads in wonder and said they would just use portable
- steel platforms and cool them with liquid oxygen.
-
- It was again successful and launched a satellite. The telemetry
- was late in coming in. When Von Braun was given the news when it
- did come in, he looked at his watch, and said in a flat voice,
- "She is eight minutes late. Interesting." Hacker mentality to the
- end.
-
- If the "messy" design was allowed to go first by the "Committee",
- perhaps 20 years of the "duck and cover" paranoid brainwashing of
- the american people could have been prevented.
-
- The hacker ethic is NOT just C programming.
-
-
-